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Robert Binet And Lily Sutherland: The Younger Turks Main Fall For Dance North Into New Instructions


Fall For Dance North co-Govt Administrators Robert Binet & Lily Sutherland (Picture courtesy of FFDN)

Fall For Dance North was based in 2014 by Ilter Ibrahimof and has since turn out to be one of the vital prestigious dance festivals in Canada.

Following Ibrahimof’s departure in 2024, Robert Binet was appointed inventive director and Lily Sutherland pageant director. They each function co-executive administrators.

All eyes are on the primary season of FFDN that the brand new crew has normal, which runs till October 26.

Robert Binet, 34, is an acclaimed choreographer with a background in mentorship, directing artist improvement and spear-heading the creation of latest dance works.

For over a decade Lily Sutherland, 33, has been an skilled producer and programmer with a number of necessary Canadian dance and theatre festivals. Since 2018, she has held numerous programming positions at FFDN.

Our Zoom name about their first season passed off with Sutherland in Toronto, and Binet in Vienna, the place he was setting a piece on the junior firm of Wiener Staatsballett. The excerpt that follows is their in-depth dialog about FFDN’s 2025 programming.

Choreographer/dancer Sekou McMiller and Friends, Marielys Molina (Photo: Elyse Mertz)
Choreographer/dancer Sekou McMiller and Pals, Marielys Molina (Picture: Elyse Mertz)

Robert Binet & Lily Sutherland: The Interview

(With their permission, the voices of Binet and Sutherland have been mixed into single solutions.)

In previous years, the combined invoice programming appeared far more eclectic, whereas this yr the signature packages appear extra targeted, as in the event that they every have a selected connection.

This yr we did establish a key theme inside every program, however in such a manner that audiences can really feel launched to all kinds of dance kinds inside the connection factors.

Which I believe ties into your saying that FFDN would appoint an artist-in-residence who would play a big function within the pageant.

Having an artist-in-residence was the very very first thing we introduced about this yr’s pageant. It was one of many first issues we had talked about after we have been discussing technique — how can we put native artists into a global context? As a result of we’re a global pageant, for a neighborhood choreographer to share their work alongside the work of choreographers on that degree could possibly be so inspirational, so significant and such a tremendous studying alternative.

Which means you’re going to have an artist-in-residence yearly.

And will probably be a Toronto choreographer of some kind who works exterior of ballet as a result of it’s more durable to have a full-time profession exterior of ballet. The thought is that we fee a piece from the artist-in-residence, they usually co-curate a signature program in addition to performing some group engagement work.

We would like the artist-in-residence program to be a second when a rare native choreographer can actually enhance their profile and work at a bigger scale than they’ve ever labored at beneath regular circumstances. So, it’s creation, curation, and group, since you want all three to construct a sustainable profession.

You selected the superb Esie Mensah to be the primary artist-in-residence.

She is a choreographer we vastly admire, and we predict she’s a rare expertise. Her work was developed to the diploma the place it was prepared for extra eyes on it.

Which can also be why you’re opening FFDN with the AFROFUSION Signature Program.

Esie co-curated an Afrofusion program as a result of she is an Afrofusion choreographer. A part of deciding on an artist-in-residence is somebody whose inventive profile lends itself to that sort of signature program dialogue.

We informed Esie, we need to fee a brand new work from you, however we additionally need to convey two of your heroes, two of the individuals who work in Afrofusion such as you do, however do it in another way, do it internationally, folks that you simply actually need to be aligned with. And so, we labored along with her to establish these folks and produce them right here.

Clarify the variations.

Afrofusion is so many alternative Afro-diasporic dance kinds introduced collectively that we will present them fused in numerous methods.

Esie’s work relies on conventional West African dance and samba. London’s Dickson MBI’s model is road dance and modern dance, and from New York, Sekou McMiller’s Afro Latin Soul focuses extra on salsa, mambo, faucet, and jazz.

So, you actually get that full spectrum of the numerous completely different influences that exist inside Afrofusion and that’s what we’re hoping to convey via these performances.

Concerning the HOMEGROWN Signature Program that includes Toronto choreographers — Esie Mensah co-curated this one as properly.

To be trustworthy, we had so many concepts on the Afrofusion program, it made sense to unfold a few of these concepts throughout two packages so we prolonged her co -curation right here. Because it seems, HOMEGROWN is essentially the most combined of all three signature packages as a result of it’s not tied collectively by one model of dance.

You get Reverence by Ethan Colangelo, a up to date dance work from the Nationwide Ballet, you get road dance from Girl C, you get conventional West African dance from Lua Shayenne, and also you get African road dance from Kwasi and Ambrose.

With the HOMEGROWN program, we need to actually spotlight what this metropolis has, as a result of with a global pageant, we fear that folks suppose that the day after the pageant, all these items they’ve liked for 2 weeks is gone, and we actually need to hammer dwelling that these individuals are right here, you may comply with their work, as a result of we don’t need to be a blip for 2 weeks, we need to be constructing audiences for the entire yr for these artists,

What’s your rationale for placing Kathak and ballet on the identical signature program?

When Rob first considered this job, one among his concerns was that FFDN was a spot the place he might convey Kathak and ballet collectively. He and Kathak dancer Tanveer Alam had usually talked in regards to the similarities and variations between the kinds, and the way ballet and South Asian dance have knowledgeable one another’s improvement. Tanveer is a co-curator on this program. He’s a rare Kathak dancer and choreographer

These are two dance kinds which can be extremely technical, extremely musical, with actually quick footwork and actually lush arm actions. They hit all the identical pleasure centres for an viewers member, though they’re fully completely different dance kinds with very completely different histories. This program toggles forwards and backwards between these two kinds so that folks can actually see the connections and the variations. And a ballet viewers can fall for Kathak and a Kathak viewers can fall for ballet.

The Royal Ballet, Balanchine, Symphony in C, ROH (Photo: Foteini Christofilopoulou)
Manufacturing picture of Balanchine – Symphony in C, The Royal Ballet ©2025 (Picture: Foteini Christofilopoulou)

And dancers from the Royal Ballet — how did you handle to swing that little cookie?

Rob has been doing a number of work with them in the previous couple of years, and the Royal’s inventive director Kevin O’Hare may be very supportive of this concept of bringing Kathak and ballet collectively.

The Royal dancers are bringing works that aren’t usually seen in Canada — a number of the gems from their repertoire like Kenneth Macmillan’s Winter Desires pas de deux , and Frederick Ashton’s Dance of the Blessed Spirits, issues which can be conventional, however will even be new for audiences.

It’s such an thrilling function with the pageant to have completely different conversations with ballet and put it in numerous frames, and have it discuss in regards to the variations between East and West, and to get to place it into dialogues like this. Such a excessive distinction will be actually thrilling, as a result of Kathak and ballet, as related as they’re, in addition they are simply such completely different visible and musical experiences.

INTIMATE PAIRINGS and UP NEXT are the 2 new collection you’ve got created. What’s the thought behind them?

They each got here from a spot of us wanting to present audiences other ways to expertise dance that aren’t essentially “come sit within the theatre for an hour and a half.”

How does INTIMATE PAIRINGS match into that definition?

With INTIMATE PAIRINGS, all of the exhibits are 45 minutes, and each seat is a entrance row seat. It’s only one row of seats within the spherical on the Citadel.

As a result of if you’re actually up shut and when it feels actually intimate, we selected works intentionally that are supposed to be at their most extraordinary as a result of that creates a memorable expertise for somebody and that may get them coming again to bop.

This system Braids & Heritage is an element efficiency and half participatory line dance, a piece by Montreal’s Jossua Satinée and Stacey Désilier. The second program options two solo works, gutted by Katie Adams-Gossage and Pendulum by Priyanka Tope.

You may say, you’re within the entrance row, it’s simply 45 minutes, come in your manner dwelling from work. And hopefully they’ll take an opportunity on it.

And UP NEXT, what’s its particular characteristic?

The thought was we wished to shut the pageant with one thing that doesn’t really feel like an ending, however factors to what’s arising subsequent for dance on this metropolis.

So, on this system, we’ve received a collaboration with Luminato that introduces Azzam Mohamed, who they are going to be presenting a bigger work from down the street. We’ve received the Champion Dancers from Tkaronto Open, which is our Indigenous powwow-style dance competitors. We’ve received a brand-new work from our scholar-in-residence Devon Healy and our artist -in -residence Esie Mensah that appears at how blindness and dance can work together. And, we’ve received a efficiency by the graduate yr college students from the TMU dance program choreographed by Sekou McMiller. So, it’s all meant to be issues that time to the place dance goes or performances which can be arising within the season.

The format is totally relaxed so folks can transfer round, they’ll sit, they’ll stand, they’ll seize a drink, they’ll chat to their associates, they’ll take a photograph. It’s extra like a celebration the place you get to see some nice dance.

The timing runs on a loop so mainly, it’s the identical present that occurs 3 times in a row Saturday, and 3 times in a row Sunday so folks can decide the time that fits them. The ticket worth is $15, and the 4 works all sit inside a 55 minute loop, and that goes 3 times every day.

National Ballet, Artists of the Ballet in Reverence (Photo: Bruce Zinger)
Nationwide Ballet, Artists of the Ballet in Reverence (Picture: Bruce Zinger)

UP NEXT is happening at The Nice Corridor at OCAD U — I didn’t even know that that venue existed. How large is it?

It could possibly accommodate about 200 folks. It’s a very stunning house, actually spacious, and really accessible. However the very nice factor is it’s three tales excessive and there’s balconies on ranges two and three so you can too go up and get a chicken’s eye view if you’d like.

You’re presenting Kate Hilliard and that’s one other new initiative.

We’re co-presenting Kate Hilliard’s dance set up Story Creatures with the AGO. It’s a 7-hour, publish apocalyptic piece about new beginnings, with two new dancers taking up every hour. It was offered as an excerpt a number of years in the past. She’s not dancing in it this time as a result of there’s quite a bit that she wish to oversee as an outdoor eye. However she’s put collectively a beautiful solid. Any FFDN ticket will get free entry into the AGO.

It’s a very stunning work, and we took it to the AGO they usually felt like it could be a very stunning match with their Joyce Wieland exhibition. And so we went again to Kate and her jaw simply dropped as a result of Wieland is one among her heroes, and somebody she had studied in college and who had been fairly an inspiration within the improvement of this work. It was simply a type of issues that felt like the celebs aligned.

After which to have that operating all day, Saturday and Sunday, on the AGO after we’ve received UP NEXT on at OCAD means we’ve received an actual hub of dance proper downtown for the final weekend of the pageant.

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